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Offline jninja

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older rails dont fit big guys
« on: January 25, 2010, 11:01:09 AM »
started on my bro's rail. went to fit the seats and he wont fit under the roof bar and was looking over the windsheild frame.so out came the sawsall and tubing knotcher.we lifted the front of the cage up 7 inches and put it back together.double walled all the joints and then added the x and front cross bar.should start welding tabs for lights and other things next weekend.we have a plasma cam and a brake at the shop so we can cut and bend our own tabs and brackets.
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 05:46:20 PM »
thats what I would need to do to my appletree framed rail. I think I'm going to sell it and buy a berrian frame one though
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 08:10:08 PM »
Berrien aint much better unless you special order extra height.
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 09:16:47 PM »
I have the same problem with my Berrien 4 seat sand fox  :(,,,I have to sit very low in my seat or I will “and have” crack my head on the top bar. My seat is as low as I can get it. I have a windshield so I will either have to lift the top bar or lower my seat through the pan, but then if I hit a stump I might  knock my fat A$$ off!  :???: :grinnod:

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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 09:40:24 PM »
there a few advantages to being short after all!! LOL....not to mention that it limits the people that want to  "take your rail for a spin" when they are eating their knees when they climb in!!  :grinnod:

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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 09:48:01 PM »
i cant prove it but he claimes his is a Berrien frame... i agree with pyedean,,,being smaller is better sometimes.
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 11:22:26 AM »
okay, my inlaws neighbor has a berrien frame one he got in kit form that he built and he has a few inches of head clearece at 6'5"
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 11:46:31 AM »
okay, my inlaws neighbor has a berrien frame one he got in kit form that he built and he has a few inches of head clearece at 6'5"

if we used the old seats things would have been fine, but he bought the taller polly seats, my brother is close to 6ft. also makes a difference how the seat mounts. there are bars welded on top of the chassis tubes and the seat sets straight up.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 11:52:11 AM by jninja »
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 01:42:31 PM »
Yup, the fiberglass backbreakers mount low, and some have quite a lot of lean to them. Any real seat will be much taller.

I have APC Racing seats in my buggy. They are mounted about 2" below the frame and have a lot of lean to them. At 6'1", I barely fit, but at 6'0" my father has a lot of room.

My frame was built by XTC with the cage raised 1.5" over stock.

Can you post up a side-profile of the competed car?

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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 02:24:33 PM »

Can you post up a side-profile of the competed car?

sure. if i remember too ill get one this weekend and put it up.
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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 05:50:48 PM »
Berrien normally offers a 3" higher cage as an option on most of their frames....

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Re: older rails dont fit big guys
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2010, 09:32:20 AM »
worked on the steering and seats saturday.only had a few hours to work on it but got the seats set, the steering set, and the rear seat brakets welded in, heres the pics you asked for
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